TNT: Qidian Redux

This week for Translation Necessary Thursday I’m back with another post about some lying, and thieving assholes. It’s Qidian Redux!

What now: God so much has happened since the last post about this two months ago that it’s really quite ridiculous. So I’ll start with what’s happened since. There was more trash talking happening on the novel updates forums and novel translations subreddit. That is pretty much a given, there were obvious throwaway accounts on both sides, although I’ll be straight up and say I saw a hell of a lot more Qidian International throwaway accounts. So they’ve already lost my trust, and were losing more credibility with me as the situation progresses. Their PR person was apparently fired, personally I say good riddance they were a joke and terrible at their job.

Then the community is thrown into upheaval again with the departure of some translators, including one of the most prominent translators in the community CKTalon, jumping ship from Wuxiaworld to Qidian International. According to CK it was just because of the money. Personally I think he’s foolish, they’ve shown that they won’t keep faith and so signing anything with them at this time seems to be incredibly stupid. What doesn’t speak well of him is the fact that he left Gravity Tales, another translation website prior to all this starting up. Him joining Wuxiaworld was part of the initial situation in the first place, so him leaving again isn’t a good sign of his character. Personally while I enjoyed the series he translated, which even included series like I’m Really a Superstar, I couldn’t in good conscience keep supporting such a person.  Not to mention that the Qidian International website still is terrible.

So the community is getting over this, and when we all think this isn’t going to become any more chaotic we have another situation pop up courtesy of Qidian International slinging slander and more lies. They hired another person to be their PR person, u/HighJaystar, and started another war on Wuxiaworld by sending a DMCA request to try to take down the entire website, which failed, and than proceeded to steal all of the Qidian works on Wuxiaworld and copy and paste them onto their own website, which is still terrible to use. I actually asked HighJaystar about trying to fix their website when this was all going down and he was acting as the QI PR person, but I never received another response after that question was brought up. I guess he was too busy making personal remarks with the company account.

These actions gets them banned from the subreddit entirely, which is highly understandable and frankly Novel Updates should just have banned them as well due to their own rules regarding aggregator sites, which QI had clearly become after stealing translations. Those translations are counted as completely different under International Copyright law as far as I know from what I’ve learned since this whole mess has started.  They did implement a filtering option to remove Qidian International works completely, but frankly this seems to be caving in to me.

So that happens just a couple weeks ago, and now just a few days ago we have yet another situation where GGP, the prior owner and operator of Gravity Tales, whom I mentioned above, has apparently signed away most of his rights to the translations and operations of his website to Qidian International. Apparently many of the translators at the website were unaware of this. This all occurs just a couple days after GGP announces they had signed a licensing deal with Qidian. GGP lost a lot of faith from the community after this action. While I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, the fact that he wasn’t sticking with the community against known thieves of translators isn’t helping his image.

There is a lot more that went down, but those were the big incidents and I feel like I’ve wrote enough on the subject. I’ll provide a link to someone’s pretty unbiased timeline of the issue below.

That’s it for this week’s Translation Necessary Thursday, personally I ask that everyone boycott Qidian International, or if you were already doing so continue to do so. Their actions have been irrepressible thus far.

QI vs Wuxiaworld Timeline:

Part 1

Part 2

There are more things that occurred, like QI implementing ads that you must interact with on their website to continue reading, which apparently is even more unusable now. But I haven’t gone back to their website since this all started. They’ve also stolen artwork from others as well to use as cover art, but that isn’t anything new.

TNT: Battle Through the Heavens Chapters 41-80 by Heavenly Silkworm Potato

This week for Translation Necessary Thursday I’m covering the second set of chapters in Xiao Yan’s quest for redemption. It’s Battle Through the Heavens Chapters 41-80 by Heavenly Silkworm Potato!

Plot Synopsis: In a land where no magic is present. A land where the strong make the rules and weak have to obey. A land filled with alluring treasures and beauty, yet also filled with unforeseen danger.  Three years ago, Xiao Yan, who had shown talents none had seen in decades, suddenly lost everything.  His achievements, his reputation, and his promise to his mother. What sorcery has caused him to lose all of his powers? And why has his fiancee suddenly shown up?

Plot: This is where the series really begins to take off, and while we don’t get to see Xiao Yan stomp all over everyone, he’s definitely redeeming himself slowly. I won’t say that this is the best set of chapters, because it’s not. If the first set interested you but didn’t get you hooked fully, this set of chapters ought to be another step towards that.

Characters: We don’t really get introduced to any new characters in this set of chapters.

Overall: This is a good second set of chapters, and while not the best series out there, there are much worse series you could read.

TNT: Qidian

This week for Translation Necessary Thursday I’m going to posting some links mainly. The Translation community is reeling from the betrayal of Qidian towards Wuxiaworld. It’s all about Qidian!

What is this about?: So on May 22nd, Qidian posted a defamatory thread in the Novel Updates forum. It was targeted specifically towards Wuxiaworld, arguably the largest fan translation site for Far Eastern novels in the world.  They demanded 31 licenses back from WW even though they had come to an agreement. The statements in that thread were blatantly false, and were poaching the translators and editors of those series. It was insulting.

What’s happened since?: Quite a bit has fallen out from RWX’s reply for Wuxiaworld to someone leaking what is arguably a slave contract, if you work with Qidian. There have been posts on both sides of the argument, but frankly anyone with half a brain can tell that this is all Qidian trying to consolidate what is already in a monopoly in China.  They have 97% of the market in China, and the parent company of Qidian is Tencent, a huge organization that owns stakes in both Riot Games (League of Legends) and Epic Games (Gears of War). That is just a small part of what they own. Not only have they gone back on their word to RWX, but they’ve gone back on their word to the community. I personally wrote about QI being a huge step forward for the community. I guess I was short sighted, like so many others.

Not only that, but everything that’s come out explains the lack of reply I got to an email I sent to their suggestions personnel requesting them to make the site better for readers. I had gotten a couple replies, telling me to log in, which is locked behind an invite code that you might not be able to get, but when I described what the issue was in great detail with a step-by step replication guide, I never got another email from them. Clearly they are being stingy and truly don’t hold the communities’ best interests at heart.

If you want to read each post and the Reddit reactions to them I advise you to check out these links.

Qidian’s initial NU post | Reddit Thread about it

Wuxiaworld’s Formal Response | Reddit Thread about it

Discussion thread on what the /r/noveltranslations community response will be

New Qidian Statement | Reddit Thread about it

Qidian Contract Leak | Reddit Thread about it

Qidian Owns Electronic Copyrights

Noodletown’s View on the Issue (truly a hilarious read, god the guy is either really stupid or deliberately trying to look like a dumbass to pass info on. Personally I’m leaning towards the former, but who really knows)

Noodletown’s Reply to Being Called Out on Lying in Previous Thread

Chinese Reactions to this Issue

That’s it for this week’s Translation Necessary Thursday. I’m plenty pissed off, and I’ll be boycotting Qidian International, something I couldn’t even read in the first place due to their crappy website. I advise other’s to do the same, especially since they want to put everything behind a paywall.

TNT: Battle Through the Heavens Chapters 1-40 by Heavenly Silkworm Potato

This week for Translation Necessary Thursday I’m covering the first set of chapters in a series I have yet to cover. It’s Battle Through the Heavens Chapters 1-40 by Heavenly Silkworm Potato!

Plot Synopsis: In a land where no magic is present. A land where the strong make the rules and weak have to obey. A land filled with alluring treasures and beauty, yet also filled with unforeseen danger.  Three years ago, Xiao Yan, who had shown talents none had seen in decades, suddenly lost everything.  His powers, his reputation, and his promise to his mother. What sorcery has caused him to lose all of his powers? And why has his fiancee suddenly shown up 3 since he lost it all?

Plot: The plot of this first set of chapters is pretty good, but slow. This is definitely a foundation building set of chapters.  That’s not a bad thing, since the entire series is 1648 chapters long and is complete, and although not completely translated yet we’ve reached the 700’s in English. It also shares the same universe as two other series by the author, Wu Dong Qian Kun and The Great Ruler. The Great Ruler in particular actually is a sequel to both, with characters from both Battle Through the Heavens and Wu Dong Qian Kun showing up in it for cameos.

Characters: Xiao Yan is probably one of my favorite main characters, for his snark, ruthlessness, and calm demeanor. He’s an excellent main character, and while not as roguish as other main characters I’ve covered before he is pretty good.  The rest of the cast is also great, although I think I enjoy Xun Er the most as a side character.

Overall: This is a great series, and is just a little under half translated, so you’ll have plenty of chapters to read.

For those who like: Xuanhuan, Fantasy, Martial Arts, Cultivation, Alchemy, Excellent Plot, Fantastic Set of Characters.

Not for those who don’t like: Any of the above.

TNT: Martial World Chapters 121-160 by Cocooned Cow

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This week for Translation Necessary Thursday I’m back with the fourth set of chapters in Lin Ming’s quest for supremacy. It’s Martial World Chapters 121-160 by Cocooned Cow!

Plot Synopsis: Having successfully defeated Zhu Yan and further cemented his place as a rising star of the Seven Profound Martial House, Lin Ming sets out to improve his Inscription technique by doing odd jobs at the nearby Inscription Association. However clouds are brewing and his rising glory is leading to some powerful figures becoming nervous at his rapid rise in power.

Plot: This is a less action filled set of chapters than the previous one, but it doesn’t mean it’s not interesting. This is a set of chapters that lets us see some more intricate martial forms and techniques and how Lin Ming is a complete masochist when it comes to training. It’s even a chapter title….

Characters: We get introduced to a few new characters, but Qin Ziya is probably my favorite one. That being said the rest of the newcomers are all “interesting”.

Overall: A less action packed set of chapters, but still a fun read.

TNT: Peerless Martial God Chapters 121-160 by Jing Wu Hen

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This week for Translation Necessary Thursday I’m back with the fourth set of chapters in Lin Feng’s journey for strength. It’s Peerless Martial God Chapters 121-160 by Jing Wu Hen!

Plot Synopsis: Lin Feng survived the destruction of his sect, the Yun Hai Sect, and is one of a handful of survivors who didn’t betray the sect before it’s destruction. Unlike the rest though Lin Feng was entrusted with task of bringing the sect back to life when he became stronger and was given the Patriarch’s ring and position before being left in a secret area known only to the protectors of the sect. Overcome with grief at the death of so many of his fellow martial brothers and sisters he eventually leaves the secret temple and in the depths of the Black Wind Mountains he encounters a beautiful young woman who had no name. He named her Meng Qing and agreed to take her out into the outside world, in exchange for stories from his previous life. He encounters a friend, Jing Yun and her young friend Duan Feng, a scion of the Imperial family of Xue Yue. He saves them from bandits and assassins and brings them to the Celestial academy in the Imperial City, and ends up joining the Celestial Academy as a special student, with no strings attached.

Plot: These chapters show the rise of Lin Feng’s fame and power in the rest of the capitol and are probably the best chapters yet, I have to admit that the previous set of chapters were pretty depressing with the death of all the people who were kind to him in the Yun Hai sect except Jing Yun.

Characters:We get introduced to lots of new characters in these chapters, but Wen Ao Xue is my favorite newcomer, he’s mysterious and isn’t an ass just because he’s incredibly powerful. Lin Feng continues to impress, and Meng Qing is a total bad ass female lead as well.

Overall: If you weren’t hooked yet, these chapters show the best strengths of the series as a whole very well.

TNT: Martial World Chapters 81-120 by Cocooned Cow

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Hey all I’m back with the third set of chapters in Lin Ming’s rise to power for this week’s Translation Necessary Thursday. It’s Martial World Chapters 81-120 by Cocooned Cow!

Plot Synopsis: Having attained a special state of cultivation, Lin Ming easily defeated Zhang Cang in their duel and he gained much needed medicine to further his growth as a warrior. Now however he’s made his enemy Zhu Yan even more nervous about his sudden growth. He’s also gained the attention of the higher ups from the Seven Profound Martial House that he is training at….

Plot: This is where the story really takes off, the first 80 chapters were a very slow start to the series, but from this point onward the story starts to liven up quite a bit. I won’t spoil anything, but if you weren’t pleased because of it’s slow start you’ll be very happy to know that from these chapters on the series only gets better.

Characters: We don’t get introduced to many newcomers in this set of chapters, but my favorite is probably Wang Chuhan, although she is pretty arrogant at first, she’s not too bad. Lin Ming stays a cool collected person and continues to get more interesting.

Overall: From these chapters on Martial World only gets better, the slow start to the previous chapters might have been off putting, but if you can get through them it’s well worth the wait.